tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post2182862550137117722..comments2024-02-07T03:12:59.031-05:00Comments on Blogenspiel: Was she at the same conference?Another Damned Medievalisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05231085915472400163noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-68350866975736144612008-06-11T12:32:00.000-04:002008-06-11T12:32:00.000-04:00So speaks the bravery of anonymity ...So speaks the bravery of anonymity ...Another Damned Medievalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231085915472400163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-61932241341992346182008-06-09T22:03:00.000-04:002008-06-09T22:03:00.000-04:00It's a cute piece. She nails the sad desperation o...It's a cute piece. She nails the sad desperation of mediocre academics pretty well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-12146689988691423422008-06-05T12:28:00.000-04:002008-06-05T12:28:00.000-04:00you've got such a giant stick up your ass that it'...<I>you've got such a giant stick up your ass that it's grown through to form an incoherent chip on your shoulder.</I><BR/><BR/>Now that is a nice bit of prose. <BR/><BR/>I don't understand how someone gets the idea to trash people who will be in a position to hire her in a couple of years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-90240042380072410132008-06-01T19:14:00.000-04:002008-06-01T19:14:00.000-04:00Interestingly here book _The Human Christ_ is a mi...Interestingly here book _The Human Christ_ is a milder "Inventing the MIddle Ages" gossip rag on modern scholars and the Historical Jesus. Also interestingly is that her conclusion essentially is that the scholar in question creates the historical Jesus in his or her own image, except of course Christian orthodoxy which preserves the truth of the matter. What I find interesting on that question though is that her conclusions are so very postmodern, the very thing she decries so vociferously in her article on K'zoo.theswainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05919025515524894537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-69053799585246337702008-05-29T07:19:00.000-04:002008-05-29T07:19:00.000-04:00The article isn't satire. Satire is funny. This i...The article isn't satire. Satire is funny. This is simply mean-spirited and tries to persuade people that this conference and those who attend it are somehow not serious scholars. <BR/><BR/>Also -- not fiction. Fiction doesn't have to be true. We all know that. Journalism is -- so writing articles that use half-truths in to convey a particular agenda is unethical as well. <BR/><BR/>I am surprised that you can't tell the difference.Another Damned Medievalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231085915472400163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-61527812559912812142008-05-29T05:27:00.000-04:002008-05-29T05:27:00.000-04:00It seems to me you are being extremely thin skinne...It seems to me you are being extremely thin skinned here. I read it as a harmless piece of satire. Also being untrue does not make something ipso facto offensive let alone "particularly offensive." Indiana Jones is not a true depiction of archeologists, but it is not an offensive one.J. Otto Pohlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07457089758142264049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-63309904961723139672008-05-28T23:01:00.000-04:002008-05-28T23:01:00.000-04:00It reads like standard 'aren't the medievalists od...It reads like standard 'aren't the medievalists odd' pieces that accompany Kzoo (& Leeds) every year, but with a little more piss than vinegar due to the author's own conflicted relationship to her peer group. <BR/><BR/>All the CUA medievalists I've met are very nice and collegial. A shame not all their students learn to follow their lead.Parishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10724364909872924908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-90167978335106673892008-05-28T18:13:00.000-04:002008-05-28T18:13:00.000-04:00oh, and theswain? I look forward to it!oh, and theswain? I look forward to it!Another Damned Medievalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231085915472400163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-34530748179069593512008-05-28T18:11:00.000-04:002008-05-28T18:11:00.000-04:00anon -- fish? meet barrel.anon -- fish? meet barrel.Another Damned Medievalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231085915472400163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-19035686703775942422008-05-28T17:46:00.000-04:002008-05-28T17:46:00.000-04:00Here's another reference to her: http://www9.georg...Here's another reference to her: http://www9.georgetown.edu/faculty/jod/texts/washtimesreview.html<BR/><BR/>"Charlotte Allen, author of "The Human Christ: The Search for the Historical Jesus," is writing her doctoral dissertation in medieval and Byzantine studies for the Catholic University of America."<BR/><BR/>Hm. Book review anyone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-13826456546913752432008-05-28T16:46:00.000-04:002008-05-28T16:46:00.000-04:00I'm not sure she's a Byzantinist: the program at C...I'm not sure she's a Byzantinist: the program at CUA is Medieval and Byzantine Studies. I've found that in the last few years she's read on Chaucer at a Chaucer conference and on Aelred's sister at the Haskins conference a few years back. In case anyone is interested, I have a longish response in preparation, covering different ground than what's covered here. I think there is something more nefarious going on than just being offensive....theswainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05919025515524894537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-11259049025174369532008-05-28T14:38:00.000-04:002008-05-28T14:38:00.000-04:00"It's a weird topic for someone who is supposedly ...<I>"It's a weird topic for someone who is supposedly a Byzantinist historian ..."</I><BR/><BR/>Not really. Recycled seminar paper.Matthew Gabrielehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11971159578332078338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-18218047977252534782008-05-28T07:57:00.000-04:002008-05-28T07:57:00.000-04:00It's a weird topic for someone who is supposedly a...It's a weird topic for someone who is supposedly a Byzantinist historian ...Another Damned Medievalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231085915472400163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-27452628154504177202008-05-28T03:43:00.000-04:002008-05-28T03:43:00.000-04:00Session 262, Friday May 5, 2006. 41st Congress: Ch...Session 262, Friday May 5, 2006. 41st Congress: Charlotte Allen, Catholic University of America. "Thirteenth-century English Religious Lyrics as Meditative Texts." hmm...I guess maybe her paper wasn't well received.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-51820860552400522372008-05-26T14:26:00.000-04:002008-05-26T14:26:00.000-04:00Give me a bigger paycheck and time to get to a goo...Give me a bigger paycheck and time to get to a good gym, and I'll be happy to spruce up my appearance :-)Another Damned Medievalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231085915472400163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-60032658265034501092008-05-26T11:39:00.000-04:002008-05-26T11:39:00.000-04:00The offensiveness of the article comes not merely ...The offensiveness of the article comes not merely from the fact that it belittles the profession and takes to task paper topics, but that it belittles the fashion sense of academics -- that's a bad way to make a real argument, but definitely a way to get an audience of The Weekly Standard to pay attention.Emilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05785405871792461512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-40981774845638424312008-05-26T11:32:00.000-04:002008-05-26T11:32:00.000-04:00We've read this article before, of course, mostly ...We've read this article before, of course, mostly in the New York Times about the MLA. The same tropes appear: session and talk titles, academic dress sense, numbers of people. MLA-bashing must be becoming passé -- so obscurer conferences now come in for the treatment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-8019523330085053362008-05-26T09:06:00.000-04:002008-05-26T09:06:00.000-04:00Oh, and Otto, if it's "untrue," then it IS particu...Oh, and Otto, if it's "untrue," then it IS particularly offensive.Matthew Gabrielehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11971159578332078338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-53314535682076915562008-05-26T07:44:00.000-04:002008-05-26T07:44:00.000-04:00Because Allen belittles a lot of people and their ...Because Allen belittles a lot of people and their work, when it's undeserved? Because for all those poor little folk who work at isolated institutions and have a hard time keeping up with their scholarship, some of them will now have to re-explain that Kalamazoo is a legitimate scholarly conferences, and not just a big boondoggle, or a place where *anybody* can get a paper accepted? Because she reinforces ideas that academia in not worthwhile?Another Damned Medievalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231085915472400163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-47404440144001066982008-05-26T02:01:00.000-04:002008-05-26T02:01:00.000-04:00I am not sure why you are so angry over the articl...I am not sure why you are so angry over the article. I read it and found it highly entertaining. I can not vouch for its accuracy. But, even if it is an untrue depiction, I did not see anything in it that was particularly offensive.J. Otto Pohlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07457089758142264049noreply@blogger.com