tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post989974499601765629..comments2024-02-07T03:12:59.031-05:00Comments on Blogenspiel: And then there was disquietAnother Damned Medievalisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05231085915472400163noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-21508711897542571782010-03-17T06:48:41.231-04:002010-03-17T06:48:41.231-04:00The troubling thing I see is, as you mentioned in ...The troubling thing I see is, as you mentioned in your previous post on this, that the MN folks present AS COLLEAGUES at academic conferences. And then do all the things you mentioned with other peoples' work. Not professional journalists, perhaps, but apparently wanting to be seen as professional academics.<br /><br />The defensive responses are all classic excuses when someone doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions.Diggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14851524413793098615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-37950979850642757902010-03-16T22:08:01.628-04:002010-03-16T22:08:01.628-04:00I think that in the case of a journal, it depends ...I think that in the case of a journal, it depends on the authors to give them content and credibility, but authors get something they need in response. Being scraped and put on MN brings in ad revenue for MN, but provides nothing to the authors. For me, that's an important distinction (I have no problem with for-profit if the content providers get something out of it).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-28466270057562383962010-03-16T21:13:38.100-04:002010-03-16T21:13:38.100-04:00Jonathan -- thanks. And it's funny, but that ...Jonathan -- thanks. And it's funny, but that last point is one of the ones that my colleague, who has been on the editorial board of several journals, mentioned to me. Still, I think it's the 'once-removed' thing that gets to me, and I hope that academic journals will require permission or full credit before sites link to articles or reprint substantial amounts of them. I'm happy to have people read something I've published, but I think the extended possibilities should be made clear.Another Damned Medievalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05231085915472400163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3671815.post-61727109002757033922010-03-16T21:05:08.900-04:002010-03-16T21:05:08.900-04:00Excellent points, all around. The responses from M...Excellent points, all around. The responses from MN really were inadequate. One of the things that I love about the web, frankly, is how <i>easy</i> it is to cite sources, to trace and evaluate the origins of information. <br /><br />Not to add to your disquiet, but the tension of profit applies to many journals as well. The major journal publishers -- and databases -- are for-profit operations, and their margin of profit depends on the volunteer services of authors who surrender their copyright and peer reviewers who give them editorial aid and academic legitimacy. In that case, though, the process is, at least, transparent, and authorship is public and credited.Jonathan Dresnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356112719229675996noreply@blogger.com